also mark kelly, gabby give order's husband is going to be there. >> the law enforcement issue is not being addressed. 35% less convictions on guns since the bush administration. here i'm back on bush. and also 76,000 people last year were denied on background checks denied guns. 62 referred for prosecution. they have a point. more laws is that going to cover this thing? and frankly, we're not addressing the mental issues of this. we're putting up the ban date without any adhesive by creating more laws. >> look, it's always difficult to pass gun control laws in congress in the united states. >> even after what happened in connecticut. >> but i think there's a possibility you get more on the background check side. gun shows, that's the biggest freaking loophole. got to solve that problem. seems to me, who needs 20 bullet magazines to shoot a deer? sorry. don't think so. >> we will not solve all the problems here. but hopefully congress and the president can get something done. thanks so much for coming in. we'll be right back after the break. >>> talker